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« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2010, 02:57:16 PM »

You keep making these VERY silly statements and comparisons.  crazy

Harvard has the #2 ranked law school in the country. Georgetown is #14. BOTH schools have huge endowments and Harvard has a HUGE class.

NCCU being public doesn't mean a thing in that context but more importantly, YOUR criticism of it in THIS context comes off as uninformed and juvenile.

Oh yeah, and mean spirited too. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2010, 03:14:43 PM »

What's the deal with YOU?!?!

Why do you ALWAYS feel the need and find a way to CRITICIZE HBCUs in EVERY SINGLE THREAD?  shrug

Right is right and wrong is wrong. When NCCU is a historical black law school it should be called out when they don't rank in the top 4. Let's be serious......and lets call out the facts when we see them and stop getting upset.

Ranking behind 2 very top law schools makes NCCU look bad.

The issue is probably not that NCCU Law School is not graduating black students. It may be attributed to the large # of non-black enrollees. (I used italics because those were not facts just my thoughts)

So what do you propose...denying entry to the non-black students?
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« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2010, 03:20:29 PM »

ABA-Approved Law Schools by Year
2010
Phoenix School of Law  
2008
Charlotte School of Law*
Drexel University Earle Macke School of Law*  
Elon University School of Law*
2006
Charleston School of Law *
Faulkner University, Thomas Goode Jones School of Law
University of La Verne College of Law*
Liberty University School of Law  
2005
Atlanta's John Marshall Law School
Western State University College of Law  
2004
Florida A&M University College of Law
Florida International University College of Law
2003
University of St. Thomas School of Law (Minnesota)
2002
Ave Maria School of Law
Barry University, Dwayne O. Andreas School of Law
2001
Appalachian School of Law  
2000
University of Nevada-Las Vegas, William S. Boyd School of Law
1999
Florida Coastal School of Law
1998  
Chapman University School of Law
1996
Thomas Jefferson School of Law
1995
Roger Williams University School of Law
1994
Seattle University School of Law
Texas Wesleyan University School of Law
1991
District of Columbia School of Law (now University of the District of Columbia, David A. Clarke School of Law)
1992
Quinnipiac University School of Law
1989
Regent University School of Law
1988
St. Thomas University School of Law (Florida)
Widener University School of Law- Harrisburg
1985
City University of New York School of Law
1984
Georgia State University College of Law
1983
Touro College, Jacob D. Fuchsberg Law Center
1980
George Mason University School of Law
Mississippi College School of Law
1979
Campbell University, Norman Adrian Wiggins School of Law
1978
Northern Illinois University College of Law
Pace University School of Law
Whittier Law School
Yeshiva University, Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law
1975
University of Dayton School of Law
Hamline University School of Law
Nova Southeastern University, Shepard Broad Law Center
Thomas M. Cooley Law School
Vermont Law School  
Widener University School of Law-Wilmington (Delaware)
1974
Brigham Young University, J. Reuben Clark Law School
University of New Hampshire School of Law
University of Hawai'i, William S. Richardson School of Law
Southern Illinois University School of Law
Western New England College School of Law
1972
University of Baltimore School of Law
Pepperdine University School of Law
1971
Hofstra University School of Law
1970
Lewis and Clark College Law School
Southwestern Law School
1969
Arizona State University, Sandra Day O'Connor College of Law
University of Arkansas at Little Rock, William H. Bowen School of Law
Inter American University of Puerto Rico, School of Law
McGeorge School of Law, The University of the Pacific
New England Law/Boston
Northeastern University School of Law
Texas Tech University School of Law
1968
University of California-Davis, School of Law  
Florida State University College of Law
1967
Pontifical Catholic University of Puerto Rico School of Law
1965
University of Memphis School of Law  
1962
California Western School of Law
University of Maine School of Law
1961
The University of Akron School of Law
University of San Diego School of Law
1960
Duquesne University School of Law
Oklahoma City University College of Law
1959
South Texas College of Law
1958
Judge Advocate General's Legal Center and School
1957
Cleveland State University, Cleveland-Marshall College of Law
1956
Golden Gate University School of Law
1954
New York Law School
Northern Kentucky University, Salmon P. Chase College of Law
Villanova University School of Law
1953
Southern University Law Center
Suffolk University Law Center
1951
Gonzaga University School of Law
The John Marshall Law School (Chicago)  
Seton Hall University School of Law
1950
University of California-Los Angeles, School of Law
Capital University Law School
University of Houston Law Center  
North Carolina Central University School of Law
Rutgers School of Law-Camden
The University of Tulsa College of Law
1949
Samford University, Cumberland School of Law
Texas Southern University, Thurgood Marshall School of Law
1948
The University of New Mexico School of Law
Ohio Northern University-Claude W. Pettit College of Law
St. Mary's University School of Law
1945
University of Puerto Rico School of Law
1944
Indiana University School of Law-Indianapolis
1941
Detroit College of Law (now Michigan State University College of Law)
University of Miami School of Law
Rutgers School of Law - Newark
1940
American University, Washington College of Law
1939
University of California-Hastings, School of Law
University of Toledo College of Law
1938
Willamette University College of Law
William Mitchell College of Law  
1937
Brooklyn Law School  
Santa Clara University School of Law
St. John's University School of Law
Wayne State University Law School
1936
Chicago-Kent College of Law, Illinois Institute of Technology
Fordham University School of Law
University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law
University at Buffalo Law School
Wake Forest University School of Law
1935
Loyola Law School-Los Angeles
University of San Francisco School of Law
1933
University of Connecticut School of Law
University of Detroit Mercy School of Law
Temple University, James E. Beasley School of Law
1932
Boston College Law School
College of William and Mary, Marshall-Wythe Law School
1931
Baylor University, Sheila & Walter Umphrey Law Center
Duke University School of Law
Howard University School of Law
University of Louisville, Louis D. Brandeis School of Law
Loyola University - New Orleans College of Law
Dickinson School of Law (now Pennsylvania State University, The Dickinson School of Law)
1930
Albany Law School
The University of Arizona, James E. Rogers College of Law
University of Georgia School of Law
University of Maryland School of Law
University of Mississippi School of Law
New York University School of Law
Stetson University School of Law
1929
Valparaiso University School of Law
1928
University of Richmond, T.C. Williams School of Law
1927
Southern Methodist University, Dedman School of Law
University of Utah, S.J. Quinney College of Law
1926
The University of Alabama School of Law
The University of Arkansas of Law-Fayetteville
Louisiana State University, Paul M. Hebert Law Center
1925
Boston University School of Law
The Catholic University of America, Columbus School of Law
DePaul University School of Law
University of Florida, Fredric G. Levin College of Law
University of Idaho College of Law
University of Kentucky College of Law
Loyola University-Chicago School of Law
Marquette University Law School
Mercer University, Water F. George School of Law
University of Notre Dame Law School
University of South Carolina School of Law
The University of Tennessee College of Law
Tulane University School of Law
Vanderbilt University Law School
1924
Creighton University School of Law
Georgetown University Law Center
Saint Louis University School of Law
University of Southern California, Gould School of Law
University of Washington School of Law
1923
University of California-Berkeley, College of Law
Case Western Reserve University School of Law
University of Chicago Law School
University of Cincinnati College of Law
University of Colorado Law School
Columbia University Law School
Cornell University Law School
University of Denver Sturm College of Law
Drake University Law School
Emory University School of Law
The George Washington University Law School
Harvard University Law School
University of Illinois College of Law
Indiana University School of Law-Bloomington
University of Iowa College of Law
University of Kansas School of Law
University of Michigan Law School
University of Minnesota Law School
University of Missouri-Columbia, School of Law  
The University of Montana School of Law
University of Nebraska College of Law
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Law
University of North Dakota School of Law
Northwestern University School of Law
The Ohio State University, Michael E. Moritz College of Law
University of Oklahoma College of Law
University of Oregon School of Law
University of Pennsylvania Law School
University of Pittsburgh School of Law
University of South Dakota School of Law
Stanford University Law School
Syracuse University College of Law
The University of Texas School of Law
University of Virginia School of Law
Washburn University School of Law
Washington and Lee University School of Law
Washington University School of Law
West Virginia University College of Law
University of Wisconsin Law School
University of Wyoming College of Law
Yale University Law School

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« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2010, 03:27:17 PM »

The issue is probably not that NCCU Law School is not graduating black students. It may be attributed to the large # of non-black enrollees. (I used italics because those were not facts just my thoughts)

So what do you propose...denying entry to the non-black students?

Keep in mind that Florida A&M University has the most diverse law school not NCCU. Yet, FAMU's College of Law is new and already, with all of its diversity, has more black graduates than NCCU. As hard as it is for anyone one, regardless of race or ethnicity, to get into Harvard and Georgetown ....they graduated more blacks than did NCCU.

This means something is wrong at NCCU School of Law.
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« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2010, 03:32:04 PM »

Just think if UNC Charlotte ever absorbs the private Charlotte School of Law.


Campbell Univesity law school in downtown Raleigh

Campbell University started classes in downtown Raleigh in September 2009

410 student

Campbell University School of Law-Raleigh



Campbell University's Norman Adrian Wiggins School of Law
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« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2010, 03:34:42 PM »

Man you are just being illogical.

AND silly. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2010, 03:40:43 PM »

Man you are just being illogical.

AND silly. Roll Eyes

Just because you don't agree doesn't make this discussion illogical.

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« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2010, 04:14:33 PM »

Sidebar:  That Charlotte School of Law should have been an extension campus of our school of law.  Haters everywhere we go.  Que Sera. 
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« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2010, 04:35:51 PM »

Man you are just being illogical.

AND silly. Roll Eyes
Just because you don't agree doesn't make this discussion illogical.

No, YOU are being illogical. nono2

It is totally  ILLOGICAL to criticize Central because it doesn't produce as many black law grads as Harvard or Georgetown.

Your whole thesis that because it is a public HBCU law school it should automatically produce more black grads than Harvard or Georgetown has absolutely NO rational basis, ESPECIALLY in the face of the facts.

And the fact that you continue to harp on the SAME ridiculous point of contention is also irrational.  tiptoe

Wouldn't be so bad if this were a one time thing... but you do this over and over and over and over again man.

And it's boring. 
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« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2010, 05:03:43 PM »

i'm not sure about the year in question, but nccu has in the past had graduating classes with a large and at times a majority white graduates.  it is not uncommon to hear of an nccu law school grad doing great things and that grad is white.  there is nothing wrong with nccu being ranked where they are.  it is a sign of the times.
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« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2010, 05:07:28 PM »

The issue is probably not that NCCU Law School is not graduating black students. It may be attributed to the large # of non-black enrollees. (I used italics because those were not facts just my thoughts)

So what do you propose...denying entry to the non-black students?

Keep in mind that Florida A&M University has the most diverse law school not NCCU. Yet, FAMU's College of Law is new and already, with all of its diversity, has more black graduates than NCCU. As hard as it is for anyone one, regardless of race or ethnicity, to get into Harvard and Georgetown ....they graduated more blacks than did NCCU.

This means something is wrong at NCCU School of Law.

How do you conclude that something is wrong with NCCU of Law with what you just said?

You really sound like a hater rather than a person that is sincerely concerned with the well being of HBCU's.

BTW: I never saw any post from you where you offered any solutions to the "problems" you have brought up.

So begin to offer solutions or just stop with the train wreck.
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« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2010, 05:14:03 PM »

No, YOU are being illogical. nono2

It is totally  ILLOGICAL to criticize Central because it doesn't produce as many black law grads as Harvard or Georgetown.

Why not? It's a fact.
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« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2010, 05:31:22 PM »

How do you conclude that something is wrong with NCCU of Law with what you just said?

BTW: I never saw any post from you where you offered any solutions to the "problems" you have brought up.

The solution is for NCCU to do what FAMU has done in a matter of no time. FAMU has done an excellent job and they are on top of that the most diverse law school in the United States.

There's only 1 historically black law school in North Carolina and there's only 1 historically black law school in Florida and there's only 1 historically black law school in Louisiana and there's only 1 historically black law school in Texas.

North Carolina Central University has to be doing something wrong to rank under Harvard and Georgetown in terms of graduating the larger number of black law students.
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« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2010, 05:42:48 PM »

People plug raw data into statistical models for a reason...

If every law school had the same history, endowments, enrollments, location similarities etc., then just looking at numbers and drawing conclusions would be fair and less debateable...but since that is virtually impossible they use statistical analysis

Like I said in a previous thread you havw to get behind the #'s...statisticians, research scientists, and analysts don't just build models for their health...   
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« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2010, 05:47:39 PM »

NCCU School of Law may need to look at Harvard and Georgetown in order to learn what it takes to produce more African American graduates.
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