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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2010, 06:31:15 AM »

i just watched the segment where the president uses the term mongrel.  he probably should not have used the word.  i also see nothing wrong with it.  i think the story took the word and what the president said out of context.  the media is taking this out of context.  this is the problem with sound bite journalism.  

Again, what's so amazing is to watch the double standard among these Barrydrones and sycophants. It makes me laugh. If this man said, "eating chit is good for your health". My question is would these dumbazz K----s eat chit?

Its amazing to many of us to watch you try and  demonize  President Obama every chance you get.

There was no intent on his part to demean or low-rate African-Americans and you know this.  

Have good day sir.
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2010, 06:31:56 AM »

i just watched the segment where the president uses the term mongrel.  he probably should not have used the word.  i also see nothing wrong with it.  i think the story took the word and what the president said out of context.  the media is taking this out of context.  this is the problem with sound bite journalism. 

I AGREE 100%.  IN THIS DAY OF SOUND BITE JOURNALISM EVERYONE HAS TO TAKE EXTRA CARE AND CHOOSE THEIR WORDS VERY CAREFULLY.  CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING.   ...AND THAT IS A LESSON THAT MR. BREITBART IS GOING TO LEARN OH SO WELL IN THE COMING MONTHS.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2010, 06:57:55 AM »

Fast forward to 4 mins. into the clip to hear President Obama's comment on The View
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2GK4Bt4ttE

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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2010, 07:38:18 AM »

You, know OB is an intellectual and in certain settings he reverts back to that type of conversation.  The problem that exist when you have those who sit around and just wait to pounce on something and in the end are made to look at fool; and then when they are made a fool they like hide behind the what ifs and the just becauses.  If Sean Hannity or the FOX crew used the word it would not be in the intent that Merriam Webster defines it and we all know this. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2010, 07:44:38 AM »

I'm going to say this again.

Just think if Sean Hannity said black people are Mongrels and said this in the same context as President Obama said it on The View.

Also, just think if House Minority Leader John Boehner or Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell used the term mongrels to discuss African Americans the same exact way as President Obama did on The View.

Would these same black people be all accepting of the comment?
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2010, 07:49:13 AM »

some folks crack me up....
always trying to make a out of a
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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2010, 08:10:38 AM »

‘87 Alum the fact stands that the word usage of mongrels did in fact offfend a number of people.

All people don't share the same point of view.
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2010, 08:11:27 AM »

I'm going to say this again.

Just think if Sean Hannity said black people are Mongrels and said this in the same context as President Obama said it on The View.

Also, just think if House Minority Leader John Boehner or Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell used the term mongrels to discuss African Americans the same exact way as President Obama did on The View.

Would these same black people be all accepting of the comment?


You know the answer to that question. HELL NO!


He could have said that many blacks within America are products of miscegenation. Then he could have broken it down for the IDIOTS or ignorant in the viewing audience. This would have shown some intellect. The word mongrel to the average persons ear is offensive and connotates inferior breed.

Of course you K----s think this man is so dyam smart when in actuality he's not.
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2010, 08:28:17 AM »

‘87 Alum the fact stands that the word usage of mongrels did in fact offfend a number of people.

All people don't share the same point of view.

correct, we all don't share the same point of view on many topics.  the point still remain that some, yourself included, are trying to make this out to be way more than what it is in actuality and reality.  Most of us African-Americans are not of a single race or ethnicity.  Our blood is that of mixed heritages, races, tribes and ethnicities.  I did not take offense to his usage of mongrel as that is his perogative under the First Amendment of the Constitution.  I think it's one of a minute mindset to hypercriticize and over analyze every single word the man say and every single thing he does.  I bet if he used 4 squares of Charmin to wipe some would complain that it was 1 square too many....
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2010, 08:32:12 AM »

I'm going to say this again.

Just think if Sean Hannity said black people are Mongrels and said this in the same context as President Obama said it on The View.

Also, just think if House Minority Leader John Boehner or Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell used the term mongrels to discuss African Americans the same exact way as President Obama did on The View.

Would these same black people be all accepting of the comment?


And I' m going to say this again:

It is a non-issue with me.  If Sean Hannity had said White Americans were mongrels and then said, African-American are Mongrels too, like Obama did, I probably wouldn't have problem with Hannity saying it either.
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2010, 08:43:13 AM »

I'm going to say this again.

Just think if Sean Hannity said black people are Mongrels and said this in the same context as President Obama said it on The View.

Also, just think if House Minority Leader John Boehner or Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell used the term mongrels to discuss African Americans the same exact way as President Obama did on The View.

Would these same black people be all accepting of the comment?


And I' m going to say this again:

It is a non-issue with me.  If Sean Hannity had said White Americans were mongrels and then said, African-American are Mongrels too, like Obama did, I probably wouldn't have problem with Hannity saying it either.


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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2010, 09:18:55 AM »

We are a mixed people.  As black as I am, my great grandfather was half white/indian.  Meaning one of his parents was white and the other indian.  He married a dark skinned woman, but yet that white person's blood is still flowing in my grandmother's vains.  

eagle pride and iceman4221.

How many black people go around saying they are 'Mongrels'? I have a better question for you, what group of American's can truly say the term does not fit them and is not applicable as used by the president - regardless of their racial identityI expect the POTUS to represent the best and brightest that the country has to offer - although America has failed to do this at times, OBAMA is truly and enlightened and intelligent MAN - IMHO...


Do African Americans use the term 'Mongrel' so that they can feel less black or less connected to Africa? Under the auspices of what, does using the term Mongrel, by deduction infer that the speaker is using the term for the purpose of implying they are less black or less intuned to Africa?   I believe you are reading to much into the President's use of his vocabulary...   


Again, is this term part of the African American daily language?  I would not know what is African American daily language if it hit me "square in the face"... I grew up in Orangeburg SC and as a Computer Consultant, have lived all over SC (Columbia, Charleston, Mt Pleasant & Florence), in Charlotte NC and my home of Durham NC, Providence-Warwick RI, Arcadia(Pasadena)/Woodland Hills(Burbank) Los Angeles County CA, Louisville KY, Hartford CT, Austin TX and Albany NY...  These travels have proven to me that we are not a monolithic people with a single language, ideology, culture or way of life whether we are talkin about "street language", "church speak", "academic circles" or blacks in corporate america, from place to place their were to many differences or divergences to conclude that there exists something called African American Daily Language...


Because if the President is going to use the term 'Mongrels' then when is he going to talk about Reparations for slavery and Jim Crow Apartheid?  Sounds like reparations is on your agenda; The use of the term Mongrel, appropriately interjected by the POTUS in the proper context I might add, is mutually exclusive from the issue of reparations for the wrongs that America imposed upon our ancestors in the peculiar institution called Slavery...


And being the your family has white and Native American blood does that mean they weren't treated like other Africans in the the United States?  I think you are directing this @eagle pride



If Vice President Joe Bind had said 'Mongrels' or Sarah Palin had said 'Mongrels' what would you be thinking if they said it in the exact same context as President Obama saying it?  No harm no foul, it's offending only to those that seek to dismiss the truth of the definition of the word and the context in which the term was used by the POTUS...  Just because people have NEVER heard the word used before and/or don't like the way it sounds, doesn't mean its a word akin to calling someone the "N word"... The "N word" has a negative connotation associated with it do to its history and the intent of the speaker/writer to injury or harm... By the way, I am not as sensitive as many others, so I don't get in a tight wad or have my buttons pushed so easily - it takes some more than a WORD or words to subtly manipulate me... shrug



The fact still remain, not all of my fathers and mothers were black.
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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2010, 09:29:54 AM »

i just watched the segment where the president uses the term mongrel.  he probably should not have used the word.  i also see nothing wrong with it.  i think the story took the word and what the president said out of context.  the media is taking this out of context.  this is the problem with sound bite journalism. 

 clap clap clap

I didn't like his choice of  that word and I which he hadn't used it.  However, I don't think he intended to demean or low-rate Africa-Americans.

It is a non-issue with me.  If Sean Hannity had said White Americans were mongrels and then said, African-American are Mongrels too, like Obama did, I probably wouldn't have problem with Hannity saying it either. 



 clap clap clap

You, know OB is an intellectual and in certain settings he reverts back to that type of conversation.  The problem that exist when you have those who sit around and just wait to pounce on something and in the end are made to look at fool; and then when they are made a fool they like hide behind the what ifs and the just becauses.  If Sean Hannity or the FOX crew used the word it would not be in the intent that Merriam Webster defines it and we all know this. 

Agreed, thus I wrote the following as my opening comment in my reply to a post by OS:


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m&g, u, and y...imagine the length of this thread if a white politician had describe Blacks as mongrels...

I don't understand why you would expect that, the use of the word is appropriate regardless of the source, unless its used with malicious intent...

http://onnidan1.com/forum/index.php/topic,41848.msg269462.html#msg269462
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2010, 09:40:44 AM »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As my frat brother Reginald would say and there it is...next subject...
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2010, 10:33:42 AM »

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As my frat brother Reginald would say and there it is...next subject...

Yes, let's move on especially when you K----s can't defend Barry's indefensible language and terminology.
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