Party Affiliations & Branding?

[Twin Que ASU]

It seems we are assimilating politically more so than ever.  I see Onnidan posters calling yourselves liberals and conservatives just like the majority.  Are you guys really that liberal or conservative. if so why?  Do you guys really fall in line with all of the rhetoric from the democratic and republican parties?
Lastly, do you guys agree with ALL that these groups spew?

[eagle pride]

It seems we are assimilating politically more so than ever.  I see you guys calling yourselves liberals and conservatives just like the majority.  Are you guys really that liberal or conservative. if so why?  Do you guys really fall in line with all of the rhetoric from the democratic and republican parties?
Lastly, do you guys agree with ALL that these groups spew?

I don't like to label myself.  The folk I hang around don't label themselves either.  I'm with the person that has a good idea that's seeking for the good of the people.  I could care less if he/she is a Democrate or Republican.  I just don't see that many black people branding themselves and being one sided.  It's just so happens that the democrates seem to be more willing to help the blacks, poor and the hurting more than the Republicans. 

[soflorattler]

What eagle pride said...


I don't know who "we or "you guys" are, however this I can tell you- On this board I've revealed myself as being a registered Independent voter. Do I agree with "ALL" that either party has on the table? No. However, I do agree and side with factions who seek to beat back those whose only aim is to dominate and oppress the less fortunate in this country, and the world. Often I share that we're no better than, nor less than. We're equal to. The selfish and self-centered politically aligned individuals and groups that I encounter, be it here, on the street, or in the board room, will always have a problem with me.

As Kerry Kennedy said- Speaking truth to power is a global human right...

[Twin Que ASU]

As Kerry Kennedy said- Speaking truth to power is a global human right...

I guess I observe something completely different as I read this forum.  The words liberal/democrat and conservative/republican often get tossed around.  It amazes me to read how most independents or those who claim to be independent align themselves tightly on either side on this forum.  Yes labels are closely and often associated with many posters on this forum because they make it known.  My point being this:
I don't think anyone, on this forum or otherwise, really believes or supports everything that spews from one side.  The ironic thing to that statement as validated many times on this forum, posters tend to agree with a side for the sake of alignment.

As for the truth Kerry Kennedy comment:  I agree but truth is interpreted and accepted by the listener, not the speaker.

[Wildman78]

Been here, done this:

http://onnidan1.com/forum/index.php/topic,29072.msg127716.html#msg127716

[uchighlander]

As Kerry Kennedy said- Speaking truth to power is a global human right...

I guess I observe something completely different as I read this forum.  The words liberal/democrat and conservative/republican often get tossed around.  It amazes me to read how most independents or those who claim to be independent align themselves tightly on either side on this forum.  Yes labels are closely and often associated with many posters on this forum because they make it known.  My point being this:
I don't think anyone, on this forum or otherwise, really believes or supports everything that spews from one side.  The ironic thing to that statement as validated many times on this forum, posters tend to agree with a side for the sake of alignment.

As for the truth Kerry Kennedy comment:  I agree but truth is interpreted and accepted by the listener, not the speaker.

My goodness Twin.....you better hope Cholly doesn't read your comment about truth.....the insults will start. GO VIKINGS!!!

[Twin Que ASU]

UC,
I think most know on the forum I don't do insults well.  I like to observe this forum and for the life of me I can't understand how people can be so biased for the sake of party affiliation or alignment.
...................  I may think one thing on one subject but totally disagree with those I agreed with on another.
That's freedom of thought...  A novel expression

[Bison66]

It seems we are assimilating politically more so than ever.  I see Onnidan posters calling yourselves liberals and conservatives just like the majority.  Are you guys really that liberal or conservative. if so why?  Do you guys really fall in line with all of the rhetoric from the democratic and republican parties?
Lastly, do you guys agree with ALL that these groups spew?

Twin,

If your chief concern/complaint is that there is an adversarial climate on O-dan, you are correct and, absent an invasion of aggressive and violent ETs - giving us a more common interest in being Earthlings - that is not about to change.

I may have addressed this before, but...
In an adversarial climate [You'll recall Olds..t telling you he had "ENEMIES" on this site. ], it is a "tactical mistake" to give too much ground to the opposing side.  Consequently, IMO, "we" each choose a side and go for it.

I have falsely been labeled a "liberal" and have tried to set the record straight.  But, there's no doubt in my mind that the Conservative agenda as it stands today is heavily based in racism, so I can't find a home or even comfort there.

Perhaps our difference in perception is in regard to what George Wallace used to say:  "there's not two cents of difference" between Dems and Repubs.  That was then - when there were libs and conservs in both parties to a MUCH, MUCH greater degree than there are today.  And,  the trend is strongly in the direction of the Repubs becoming The Conservative Party.  

For me, the salient distinction is ideology NOT party affiliation.
 

[Bison66]

Been here, done this:

http://onnidan1.com/forum/index.php/topic,29072.msg127716.html#msg127716

Essentially true, but perhaps more light can be shed THIS time.
 

[y04185]

We had a similar conversation today at work.  A few had no idea why they were democrats.  Most thought that Blacks had to be democrats.  When the party labels were cast aside most leaned to the conservative side.  The overwhelming majority wanted corporal punishment.

[Cholly]

Did y'all also discuss WELCHERS?!?!?

Did you talk about people who back out AFTER they lose the bet?

Did you guys discuss sending $100 checks to FAMU wh?y?

[Bison66]

I started to respond to y04's post and had just about completed it.  Then I decided that it needed no response.

Particularly, in the context that Twin is seeking input.
 

[Twin Que ASU]

Cholly,
Now that's funny, I don't care who you are, dat's funny right dare!!!!

Did y'all also discuss WELCHERS?!?!?

Did you talk about people who back out AFTER they lose the bet?

Did you guys discuss sending $100 checks to FAMU wh?y?

On another note, B66.
You are most correct I wanted to explore this in another context vice the topic I started a few months ago.  I see people agreeing with a party or ideal vice exploring singular thought.  Me think's this is an interesting subject topic only because I read so many people that just agree because of affiliation.   I believe most people are independent thinker but he 'pack' mentality breeds followers.

[soflorattler]

Twin, if you, I, and a half dozen other people agree on a particular topic/issue, why does it have to be the "pack mentality".  On any given issue, some of the same 40% of people asked/polled that agree at the time, may disagree with the those who they were just in agreement with respect to the next issue. And, so on, and so forth. Why the need to package?

[y04185]

Twin, most people will identify themselves either with a political party or they will claim to be independents.  If you are claiming to be a member of a certain party you should not blindly vote for members of that party.  That would be a voter's suicide.  A smart voter will get information from all candidates and vote for the person that is the best fit for that voter.  Regardless of the candidate's political party.  Your vote is personal.  

A classic example is who do you vote for?  You go to work everyday.  You own your own home.  You are a good provider for your family.  Who do you vote for?  Do you vote for the candidate that says he will give welfare recipients a 5% raise in benefits and will raise your taxes 5% to pay for it?  Or do you vote for the candidate that will give you a tax break for the home improvements your home needs?

One thing that Blacks do politically is they do not donate money to candidates on both sides of the aisle.